applied seth's mailinglist changes

git-svn-id: http://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/trunk/BOOK@2270 4aa44e1e-78dd-0310-a6d2-fbcd4c07a689

12 files changed, 50 insertions, 55 deletions

diff --git a/chapter01/alfsdiscuss.xml b/chapter01/alfsdiscuss.xml
index feccc5dd4..20a4915b0 100644
--- a/chapter01/alfsdiscuss.xml
+++ b/chapter01/alfsdiscuss.xml
@@ -1,10 +1,7 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>alfs-discuss</title>
 
-<para>The alfs-discuss list discusses the development of ALFS, which is short
-for Automated Linux From Scratch. The goal of this project is to develop an
-installation tool that installs an LFS system automatically, thus speeding
-up compilation by taking away the need to manually enter the commands.</para>
+<para>The alfs-discuss list is for discussion of ALFS development.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/blfsbook.xml b/chapter01/blfsbook.xml
index 47f4689bf..265da2740 100644
--- a/chapter01/blfsbook.xml
+++ b/chapter01/blfsbook.xml
@@ -1,10 +1,11 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>blfs-book</title>
 
-<para>The blfs-book list is used by the BLFS-BOOK editors to co-ordinate
-the maintenance of the BLFS book, such as XML source code issues and the
-like. Actual discussion on what should be added and removed should take place 
-on blfs-dev.</para>
+<para>The blfs-book list is used for coordinating
+the BLFS Book's maintenance.
+Traffic on it is mostly Bugzilla and CVS commit messages.
+It is important that all development discussion
+of interest to the Book's users take place on blfs-dev, not here.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/blfsdev.xml b/chapter01/blfsdev.xml
index 0f365d049..c8e6f08d5 100644
--- a/chapter01/blfsdev.xml
+++ b/chapter01/blfsdev.xml
@@ -1,12 +1,7 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>blfs-dev</title>
 
-<para>The blfs-dev mailing list discusses development of the
-BLFS-BOOK (Beyond LFS). This is the maillist to submit bug reports,
-and make suggestions to improve the BLFS book.</para>
-
-<para>Requests for help with programs beyond the base LFS build and setup
-(not just those in the BLFS book) should be made in blfs-support.</para>
+<para>The blfs-dev list is for discussion of BLFS Book development.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/blfssupport.xml b/chapter01/blfssupport.xml
index c1527a8da..db437f4c7 100644
--- a/chapter01/blfssupport.xml
+++ b/chapter01/blfssupport.xml
@@ -1,9 +1,21 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>blfs-support</title>
 
-<para>The blfs-support list handles support requests for any software
-that is not built or installed in the LFS book. Any software beyond what is
-installed as part of the base LFS system can be discussed here.</para>
+<para>The blfs-support list is for the BLFS Book and beyond.
+
+It includes requests for help following the BLFS Book,
+requests for help with packages not (yet) in
+either the LFS Book or the BLFS Book,
+and other requests and discussion concerning software
+that might be installed on an LFS system.
+
+It does not include topics such as
+the price of beer, what hardware to buy,
+or GNU versus BSD or Microsoft versus Linux flamewars.
+These belong on lfs-chat,
+and since blfs-support is high traffic,
+please follow this rule strictly.
+</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/howtopost.xml b/chapter01/howtopost.xml
index 4c522bd7b..e78f1c90a 100644
--- a/chapter01/howtopost.xml
+++ b/chapter01/howtopost.xml
@@ -1,17 +1,12 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>How to post to a list</title>
 
-<para>You do not need to be subscribed to a mailing list in order to post to it.
-However, if you post to a list you're not subscribed to, make sure you
-mention this in your email so the list members can put you in the CC:
-header of an email in order for you to receive the replies.</para>
-
 <para>The post address for a list is in the format of
 <emphasis>listname@linuxfromscratch.org</emphasis> where
-<emphasis>listname</emphasis> can be one of the lists in the Available lists
-section above. Examples of post addresses are 
-<emphasis>lfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org, lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org and
-blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org</emphasis>.</para>
+<emphasis>listname</emphasis> is one of the above lists names.
+Example post addresses are 
+<emphasis>lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org and</emphasis>
+<emphasis>blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org</emphasis>.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/lfsannounce.xml b/chapter01/lfsannounce.xml
index a3fa45530..41df323c6 100644
--- a/chapter01/lfsannounce.xml
+++ b/chapter01/lfsannounce.xml
@@ -1,13 +1,9 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>lfs-announce</title>
 
-<para>The lfs-announce list is a moderated list. It can be subscribed to, but
-you can't post any messages to this list. This list is used to announce
-new stable releases. The lfs-dev list will carry information about
-development releases as well. If a user is already on the lfs-dev 
-list, there's little use subscribing to
-this list as well because everything that is posted to the lfs-announce
-list will be posted to the lfs-dev list as well.</para>
+<para>The lfs-announce list is a moderated list for those who want
+notification of new stable releases
+without the higher traffic of lfs-dev.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/lfsbook.xml b/chapter01/lfsbook.xml
index 2f3d81935..4735be490 100644
--- a/chapter01/lfsbook.xml
+++ b/chapter01/lfsbook.xml
@@ -1,9 +1,10 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>lfs-book</title>
 
-<para>The lfs-book list is used by the LFS-BOOK editors to co-ordinate
-lfs-book's maintenance, like XML issues and the like. Actual discussion
-on what should be added and removed take place on lfs-dev.</para>
+<para>The lfs-book list is used for coordinating the LFS Book's maintenance.
+Traffic on it is mostly Bugzilla and CVS commit messages.
+It is important that all development discussion
+of interest to the Book's users take place on lfs-dev, not here.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/lfschat.xml b/chapter01/lfschat.xml
index 9dd3561e2..6a6eb8958 100644
--- a/chapter01/lfschat.xml
+++ b/chapter01/lfschat.xml
@@ -1,9 +1,11 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>lfs-chat</title>
 
-<para>The lfs-chat list is a hangout place for members of the LFS Community 
-(that includes you as well) and just chat about stuff. Doesn't even have to
-be computer related. Anything goes, nothing is off-topic.</para>
+<para>The lfs-chat list is the place for community chatter.
+It's a place where anything goes, nothing is off-topic.
+You can discuss the price of beer or what hardware to buy.
+Even GNU versus BSD and Microsoft versus Linux flamewars
+are okay in lfs-chat.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/lfsdev.xml b/chapter01/lfsdev.xml
index ea61906c5..e590c0f08 100644
--- a/chapter01/lfsdev.xml
+++ b/chapter01/lfsdev.xml
@@ -1,12 +1,7 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>lfs-dev</title>
 
-<para>The lfs-dev mailing list discusses matters strictly related to the
-LFS-BOOK. If problems with the book come up, a bug or two need to be
-reported, or suggestions to improve the book should be made, 
-this mailing list is the right one.</para>
-
-<para>Requests for help should go to lfs-support or blfs-support.</para>
+<para>The lfs-dev list is for discussion of LFS Book development.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/lfssecurity.xml b/chapter01/lfssecurity.xml
index 677f00fa7..6a3041f21 100644
--- a/chapter01/lfssecurity.xml
+++ b/chapter01/lfssecurity.xml
@@ -1,9 +1,10 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>lfs-security</title>
 
-<para>The lfs-security mailing list discusses security-related matters. 
-Security concerns or security problems with a package used by LFS,
-should be addressed on this list.</para>
+<para>The lfs-security list discusses security issues.
+Vulnerability alerts, configuration questions, 
+security related packages, and other things to do with secure systems
+are appropriate on this list.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/lfssupport.xml b/chapter01/lfssupport.xml
index 83426fdfe..90fc64a20 100644
--- a/chapter01/lfssupport.xml
+++ b/chapter01/lfssupport.xml
@@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
 <sect2>
 <title>lfs-support</title>
 
-<para>The lfs-support mailing list provides support to users building an
-LFS system as far as the end of the main book. Requests for help with
-installing software beyond the base system should go to the blfs-support
-list.</para>
+<para>The lfs-support list is the place to get help
+following the instructions in the LFS Book itself.</para>
+
+<para>If you're finished with the LFS Book, use blfs-support instead.</para>
 
 </sect2>
 
diff --git a/chapter01/maillists.xml b/chapter01/maillists.xml
index 49d7b4573..ee55c5a5b 100644
--- a/chapter01/maillists.xml
+++ b/chapter01/maillists.xml
@@ -13,12 +13,12 @@ accessible mailing lists:</para>
 
 <listitem><para>lfs-announce</para></listitem>
 
-<listitem><para>lfs-security</para></listitem>
-
 <listitem><para>lfs-book</para></listitem>
 
 <listitem><para>lfs-chat</para></listitem>
 
+<listitem><para>lfs-security</para></listitem>
+
 <listitem><para>alfs-discuss</para></listitem>
 
 <listitem><para>blfs-dev</para></listitem>
@@ -32,9 +32,9 @@ accessible mailing lists:</para>
 &c1-ma-lfssupport;
 &c1-ma-lfsdev;
 &c1-ma-lfsannounce;
-&c1-ma-lfssecurity;
 &c1-ma-lfsbook;
 &c1-ma-lfschat;
+&c1-ma-lfssecurity;
 
 &c1-ma-alfsdiscuss;